Gig 'em @ NDstructible Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 ozone = some risk. UV = essentially no risk. Agreed. Ozone can be dangerous if left unchecked and will impact everything in a tank, whereas UV will only kill what passes through the reaction chamber. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTy Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 ozone = some risk. UV = essentially no risk. ozone = some risk. UV = essentially no risk. Agreed. Ozone can be dangerous if left unchecked and will impact everything in a tank, whereas UV will only kill what passes through the reaction chamber.I haven't gotten to research it much yet. What is the main risk to worry about? An out off control ozone generator? What would be the effects of pumping too much ozone into the system? Destruction of the bacterial population in the tank? Oxidative effects on soft tissue of gills on fish and on flesh of corals? Are there any long-term worries? Any health and safety concerns for the household? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gig 'em @ NDstructible Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 ozone = some risk. UV = essentially no risk. ozone = some risk. UV = essentially no risk. Agreed. Ozone can be dangerous if left unchecked and will impact everything in a tank, whereas UV will only kill what passes through the reaction chamber.I haven't gotten to research it much yet. What is the main risk to worry about? An out off control ozone generator? What would be the effects of pumping too much ozone into the system? Destruction of the bacterial population in the tank? Oxidative effects on soft tissue of gills on fish and on flesh of corals? Are there any long-term worries? Any health and safety concerns for the household? Short answer, yes.The main risk is the oxidation effects of ozone. In salt water ozone will oxidize compounds and create toxic forms of that someone. I believe Boron is the main concern, but I would have to look it up to be certain. Whenever I run ozone I run a TON of carbon to scrub out any toxic compounds created. Also, high ozone levels are harmful to fish and to anyone in the household. If we run ozone at the lowest level (300 ppb) and something goes wrong and it runs continuously or at a higher concentration, then that ozone starts saturating the air inside the house. So let's say the house has a concentration of 200 ppb, the EPA NAAQS limit for ozone is 70 ppb! I spend a lot of time working with high concentrations of ozone in my career and I'll tell you when I've been breathing elevated levels of ozone I start feeling very wheezy and I have trouble breathing easily. High ozone levels leads to respiratory issues and oxidizes compounds in the air like NO into NO2, which is toxic to breathe. So if something goes wrong, then yes, you'll be putting your tank inhabitants and house inhabitants in danger. I've seen my anemones deflate and become ticked when I run ozone for more than a few minutes, so I imagine every animal feels that way when running ozone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victoly Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 ozone = some risk. UV = essentially no risk. ozone = some risk. UV = essentially no risk. Agreed. Ozone can be dangerous if left unchecked and will impact everything in a tank, whereas UV will only kill what passes through the reaction chamber.I haven't gotten to research it much yet. What is the main risk to worry about? An out off control ozone generator?What would be the effects of pumping too much ozone into the system? Destruction of the bacterial population in the tank? Oxidative effects on soft tissue of gills on fish and on flesh of corals? Are there any long-term worries? Any health and safety concerns for the household? The main risk is some of the secondary byproducts of ozone dosing, if the dosing is too high. The first one that comes to mind is a bromide byproduct which has a very similar effect chlorine/chloramine. Like you intimated, it's a strong oxidant and can be removed with GAC. I would think coral irritation, gill irritation and bacterial reduction could all be potential side effects. I'm not aware of any long term effects and I don't think there are household safety issues AFAIK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTy Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 ozone = some risk. UV = essentially no risk. ozone = some risk. UV = essentially no risk. Agreed. Ozone can be dangerous if left unchecked and will impact everything in a tank, whereas UV will only kill what passes through the reaction chamber.I haven't gotten to research it much yet. What is the main risk to worry about? An out off control ozone generator?What would be the effects of pumping too much ozone into the system? Destruction of the bacterial population in the tank? Oxidative effects on soft tissue of gills on fish and on flesh of corals? Are there any long-term worries? Any health and safety concerns for the household? The main risk is some of the secondary byproducts of ozone dosing, if the dosing is too high. The first one that comes to mind is a bromide byproduct which has a very similar effect chlorine/chloramine. Like you intimated, it's a strong oxidant and can be removed with GAC. I would think coral irritation, gill irritation and bacterial reduction could all be potential side effects. I'm not aware of any long term effects and I don't think there are household safety issues AFAIK. ozone = some risk. UV = essentially no risk. ozone = some risk. UV = essentially no risk. Agreed. Ozone can be dangerous if left unchecked and will impact everything in a tank, whereas UV will only kill what passes through the reaction chamber.I haven't gotten to research it much yet. What is the main risk to worry about? An out off control ozone generator? What would be the effects of pumping too much ozone into the system? Destruction of the bacterial population in the tank? Oxidative effects on soft tissue of gills on fish and on flesh of corals? Are there any long-term worries? Any health and safety concerns for the household? Short answer, yes.The main risk is the oxidation effects of ozone. In salt water ozone will oxidize compounds and create toxic forms of that someone. I believe Boron is the main concern, but I would have to look it up to be certain. Whenever I run ozone I run a TON of carbon to scrub out any toxic compounds created. Also, high ozone levels are harmful to fish and to anyone in the household. If we run ozone at the lowest level (300 ppb) and something goes wrong and it runs continuously or at a higher concentration, then that ozone starts saturating the air inside the house. So let's say the house has a concentration of 200 ppb, the EPA NAAQS limit for ozone is 70 ppb! I spend a lot of time working with high concentrations of ozone in my career and I'll tell you when I've been breathing elevated levels of ozone I start feeling very wheezy and I have trouble breathing easily. High ozone levels leads to respiratory issues and oxidizes compounds in the air like NO into NO2, which is toxic to breathe. So if something goes wrong, then yes, you'll be putting your tank inhabitants and house inhabitants in danger. I've seen my anemones deflate and become ticked when I run ozone for more than a few minutes, so I imagine every animal feels that way when running ozone. Thanks fellas. Its good to know people still in the biz! I think I'm going to limit mine and my dog's chances of visiting the ER again. I'm on a short leash with the wife already. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reburn Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 And all these reasons is why I don't run ozone. I get a wild hair every so often and start putting together the system and the driers and the carbon canisters and the reactors and I always fail to pull the trigger. I run ORP probes on all my systems and I can tell you they are fickle at best. Especially when you feed vita chem and Selcon and occasionally dose lugols and dose acro power. They all cause my ORP to drop a couple hundred points in an instant and it takes 4ish hours for the probes to get back in whack. I believe it works but after the potential dangers and the cost of the system to do it right I always shy away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gig 'em @ NDstructible Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 Bromine, that's the one, not boron. Close enough, right? [emoji12] I've never run ozone long term, so I don't have any experience or input, but I imagine indiscriminately killing bacteria in the whole tank for long periods of time would make nutrient cycling difficult. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+olaggie01 Posted September 5, 2016 Author Share Posted September 5, 2016 Wow. I leave for 2 days and you guys fill my thread with talks of science. Lots to take in. I'll read through it Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+olaggie01 Posted September 9, 2016 Author Share Posted September 9, 2016 Ozone has been hit or miss so far. I'm waiting to calibrate my ORP probe and to make sure I can contain all the excess ozone before I let it go full out. Cheato has been growing nicely. Getting quite the Death Star feel to it https://vimeo.com/182083277 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+olaggie01 Posted September 23, 2016 Author Share Posted September 23, 2016 Best skimmer ever. 48 hours. Nasty stuff Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jolt Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 I scanned your thread quickly and could not find it, but if I recall correctly you had to sell the Nyos and get something else? What is the skimmer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTy Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Best skimmer ever. 48 hours. Nasty stuff Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+olaggie01 Posted September 23, 2016 Author Share Posted September 23, 2016 Yup. Couldn't fit the skimmer in the chamber. Went with a mini bubble King 160. I thought it would be too small for the tank but I think it turned out to be a good match Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+olaggie01 Posted September 23, 2016 Author Share Posted September 23, 2016 Thanks Ty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTy Posted September 23, 2016 Share Posted September 23, 2016 Thanks TyI don't just tell anyone their skimmate is nice. [emoji6] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gig 'em @ NDstructible Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 Yup. Couldn't fit the skimmer in the chamber. Went with a mini bubble King 160. I thought it would be too small for the tank but I think it turned out to be a good match Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Yeah! Welcome to the BK club of Austin! Except mine is currently out of service waiting on a new motor block.... But I'll eventually rejoin the ranks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdavis735 Posted September 24, 2016 Share Posted September 24, 2016 I LOVED my BK. Now I wish I still had it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+olaggie01 Posted September 25, 2016 Author Share Posted September 25, 2016 Yup. Couldn't fit the skimmer in the chamber. Went with a mini bubble King 160. I thought it would be too small for the tank but I think it turned out to be a good match Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Yeah! Welcome to the BK club of Austin! Except mine is currently out of service waiting on a new motor block.... But I'll eventually rejoin the ranks. Really? That's too bad. How old is it? I like it a lot. Quiet and efficient. Needs a bigger collection cup. I'm trying to run it a little dryer but it loves to pull out the stinky stuff Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+olaggie01 Posted September 25, 2016 Author Share Posted September 25, 2016 I LOVED my BK. Now I wish I still had it. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Time to search the for sale threads Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+olaggie01 Posted September 25, 2016 Author Share Posted September 25, 2016 Threw the pair of T5s on the tank. Sps started to grow out of the top of the tank already Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mdavis735 Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 I traded a profilux controller for mine. I sold it with. Old system. So no telling where it ended up. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gig 'em @ NDstructible Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Yup. Couldn't fit the skimmer in the chamber. Went with a mini bubble King 160. I thought it would be too small for the tank but I think it turned out to be a good match Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Yeah! Welcome to the BK club of Austin! Except mine is currently out of service waiting on a new motor block.... But I'll eventually rejoin the ranks.Really? That's too bad. How old is it?I like it a lot. Quiet and efficient. Needs a bigger collection cup. I'm trying to run it a little dryer but it loves to pull out the stinky stuff Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk The skimmer itself is 8, and I think the motorblock that died was a replacement that last a couple of years [emoji53] hopefully the new replacement will last longer, they aren't cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gig 'em @ NDstructible Posted September 25, 2016 Share Posted September 25, 2016 Yup. Couldn't fit the skimmer in the chamber. Went with a mini bubble King 160. I thought it would be too small for the tank but I think it turned out to be a good match Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Yeah! Welcome to the BK club of Austin! Except mine is currently out of service waiting on a new motor block.... But I'll eventually rejoin the ranks.Really? That's too bad. How old is it?I like it a lot. Quiet and efficient. Needs a bigger collection cup. I'm trying to run it a little dryer but it loves to pull out the stinky stuff Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk The skimmer itself is 8, and I think the motorblock that died was a replacement that last a couple of years [emoji53] hopefully the new replacement will last longer, they aren't cheap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+olaggie01 Posted September 27, 2016 Author Share Posted September 27, 2016 Someone tell me how this makes any sense? Mesquite - Houston - Austin - Round Rock - Austin - Georgetown (maybe?) Location Date Local Time Activity 09/26/2016 7:41 P.M. Received by the local post office 09/26/2016 2:56 P.M. Package transferred to post office Austin, TX, United States 09/26/2016 4:59 A.M. Destination Scan Round Rock, TX, United States 09/26/2016 4:13 A.M. Destination Scan 09/26/2016 3:29 A.M. Arrival Scan Austin, TX, United States 09/24/2016 3:38 A.M. Arrival Scan Houston, TX, United States 09/23/2016 11:24 P.M. Departure Scan 09/23/2016 9:45 A.M. Arrival Scan Mesquite, TX, United States 09/23/2016 5:09 A.M. Departure Scan Mesquite, TX, United States 09/22/2016 11:51 P.M. Arrival Scan Kansas City, KS, United States 09/22/2016 2:34 P.M. Departure Scan 09/22/2016 12:07 P.M. Arrival Scan Eagan, MN, United States 09/22/2016 4:52 A.M. Departure Scan 09/22/2016 1:12 A.M. Arrival Scan Maple Grove, MN, United States 09/22/2016 12:21 A.M. Departure Scan Maple Grove, MN, United States 09/21/2016 7:08 P.M. Origin Scan United States 09/21/2016 5:55 P.M. Order Processed: Ready for UPS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTy Posted September 27, 2016 Share Posted September 27, 2016 Because I rerouted it to my house! Yay corals! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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