+KimP Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 I have bryopsis taking hold on 2 rocks in my tank. They are easily removed so I'd like to just pull them out and treat them instead of dosing the whole tank with magnesium or something. What should I use? I was thinking freshwater and/or peroxide. One rock has zoas on it that I'd rather not kill. Ideas? And after treating can I just stick them back in after scrubbing and rinsing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victoly Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 I like peroxide. It's worked well for me and has yet to kill a zoa. Some people do very strong treatments (1:1), but I do it where I have the rock submerged and then slowly add h202 until I see bubbling. I left mine in for 10 minutes or so, and then rinsed. You might manually remove (out of the tank) as much as you can and then do the peroxide. Probably wouldn't hurt to overdose mg for a bit either just to play the numbers game (all of this is in addition to skimming heavy and feeding light until you have it under control) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jestep Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Definitely peroxide for the primary method. You can also just use a spray bottle of undiluted peroxide after you take the rocks out if there's coral on the rock that you don't want to subject to H2O2 treatment. The Mg method can get expensive in a large tank if you are planning on doing water changes at the same time. Make sure you use tech-m or a supplement that includes both MgSO4 and MgCl2. Normal Mg supplements won't have any effect on bryopsis unless they have both types of magnesium compounds and as far as I know tech-m is the only off the shelf one that does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+KimP Posted November 19, 2013 Author Share Posted November 19, 2013 Okay and the consensus is only Kent Tech M, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+KimP Posted November 19, 2013 Author Share Posted November 19, 2013 Okay, thanks! I think the brs mg supplement I have has 2 kinds. I'll go check... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stoneroller Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Take the rock out!! trim the zoas off and put them in quarentine. That's what I would do. Are you sure its bryopsis? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victoly Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Pretty sure brs is a 2-part mg solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+KimP Posted November 19, 2013 Author Share Posted November 19, 2013 What about hooking up a UV sterilizer during and for a while after treatment? Do you think that might keep it from spreading and coming back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+KimP Posted November 19, 2013 Author Share Posted November 19, 2013 Take the rock out!! trim the zoas off and put them in quarentine. That's what I would do. Are you sure its bryopsis? I'm positive it's bryopsis, unfortunately :/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jestep Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Also foxface have always been nails for me in getting rid of it. Everything else is hit and miss but these guys seem to be pretty consistent in wiping it out very quickly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTy Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 I ran a combination of Tech M and a foxface. What I observed is none of my tangs and the foxface would touch the bryopsis but the minute I dosed the Tech M and saw the bryopsis start to get affected by it, the tangs and foxface went to town. My theory is the Tech M detoxified it and then my algae cleanup crew did its job of clearing my tank of it. You got PM Kim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victoly Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Foxface rental service? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTy Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 If the little guy would swim into a bag on command maybe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+KimP Posted November 19, 2013 Author Share Posted November 19, 2013 I pulled the 2 rocks out. They got a freshwater bath and hit with peroxide. In the end I decided one rock was a lost cause and tossed it. Bummer because it was my most interesting rock, but on the other hand, for whatever reason, it's always been a major algae magnet. The zoas near the bryopsis got a peroxide bath. They're pretty mad but will hopefully recover soon. JeeperTy was nice enough to drop off some Kent (thank you!) so I'll start on the mag dosing today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victoly Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 https://atlantareefclub.org/forums/showthread.php?t=82513 this is relevant to your interests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTy Posted November 19, 2013 Share Posted November 19, 2013 Kim, I'd increase about 100ppm per day. I'd imagine your current level of Mg is around 1300-1400 ppm. Just increase it to about 1800 ppm and see how the bryopsis is reacting. Typically, it will stop growing and then over a period 2-3 days will begin to turn clear. Remove what you can and I would maintain that 1800 ppm for about 2-3 weeks to be safe. Afterwards, just do a series of water changes until your Mg gets to a concentration that is closer to natural sea water. I have left mine at 2100 ppm with no ill effect other than the some of my montis faded and some of my snails have problems hanging on to the glass while resting. I don't intend to keep it this high but since I am moving to a new tank, I'd thought I'd save the water changes for when I fill out the new tank. Good luck and let me know if you have any questions. Remember to shake the bottle well before dispensing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+KimP Posted November 19, 2013 Author Share Posted November 19, 2013 Thanks for summing it up! I've been trying to read through your build thread to find all that out and hadn't found it yet. Awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTy Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 How'd day 1 go Kim? Is the bryopsis shrinking away in fear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+KimP Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 Day 1 will be tomorrow. I have a few corals that belong to a friend. We decided I'd return those before raising the mg. I'm ready to see it die, ha ha! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTy Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I was hoping for more maniacal laughter. Like... muahahaha. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+KimP Posted November 23, 2013 Author Share Posted November 23, 2013 Today I am up to 1440. I started out around 1240 yesterday, increasing 100ppm per day. Problem is my test kit is maxed out at 1500... I need to work on a plan for that next. So far no changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+KimP Posted November 23, 2013 Author Share Posted November 23, 2013 Ty, if you see this, what did you use to measure your magnesium levels up to 1800? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victoly Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 Dilute your sample 2:1 and then multiply your results by 2. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FarmerTy Posted November 23, 2013 Share Posted November 23, 2013 My Red Sea kit reads to 1600 and every 0.01 ml after that added 20 ppm of Mg. Victoly's method is a good idea as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+KimP Posted November 25, 2013 Author Share Posted November 25, 2013 Magnesium tested 1680ppm just now and I'm starting to see a difference. The bryopsis is starting to turn white. I've also noticed all of my corals look better than ever! Especially the chalices, I swear they've grown a noticeable amount in just a few days. I hope it keeps up as the level rises. I've been taking daily pictures of the one bryopsis clump I left in, but realized just now they're all blurry. You might be able to tell here that it's starting to turn white. Now that I know they're coming out blurry I'll be sure to get better ones. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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