scubasteve92 Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Is this too many? I am doing a DIY led build and currently have 13 leds in mind.. I think it will be too much. I am not planning on doing SPS, but it would be nice to have the ability to. I am doing the solderless leds, could I put them on the fixture and then later if needed wire them in? Or should I just tone it down a little? Joshua Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victoly Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Yes. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubasteve92 Posted December 5, 2012 Author Share Posted December 5, 2012 ok, got it down to 9 leds. 4 cool whites, 3 blues, 2 royal blues! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woods Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Yes, 13 is definitely too much for 4g. 9 probably is be as well. If you do that many, definitely make them dimmable so you can dial them down; if needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(Bio)³ Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 dont use your apex to dim them either! LMAO cause the apex dims by turning the led gold =D way better than a typical "cheapy" dimmer lulz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timfish Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 I have no experience keeping nanos but if you found the right corals and aclimated them you should be able to get some really brilliant colors. Keep in mind sunlight is about 1600 PAR and some corals species are found exposed at high tide. The fluorescing protiens corals produce is a response to excessive light. The protiens are also "excited" by different wavelengths between 340nm and 570nm so you could include other colors including some of the near UV leds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubasteve92 Posted December 5, 2012 Author Share Posted December 5, 2012 I have no experience keeping nanos but if you found the right corals and aclimated them you should be able to get some really brilliant colors. Keep in mind sunlight is about 1600 PAR and some corals species are found exposed at high tide. The fluorescing protiens corals produce is a response to excessive light. The protiens are also "excited" by different wavelengths between 340nm and 570nm so you could include other colors including some of the near UV leds. I may go back to 13 leds.. I originally had a green and a red led. May throw them back in the group. They have a dimmer that I am going to get as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerrickH Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 Lol, I just put a 150w HQI over a 16g AIO! I want SPS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubasteve92 Posted December 5, 2012 Author Share Posted December 5, 2012 Lol, I just put a 150w HQI over a 16g AIO! I want SPS! Nice! I would do SPS if I could mod the 4g AIO to have a sump and have a good skimmer, couple of reactors, and bump the water volume up to ~20-30g. So that I wasn't relying on weekly water changes for nutrient export. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Capt. Obvious Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 13= not too much see: http://www.nano-reef.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=136990&st=540 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubasteve92 Posted December 5, 2012 Author Share Posted December 5, 2012 13= not too much see: http://www.nano-reef.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=136990&st=540 Awesome!! Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victoly Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 i think you can probably make a distinction between what is actually "too much" (ie will fry everything in the tank) and "overkill" (more than is necessary to grow anything you want to grow). LEDs are relatively inexpensive on a per LED basis, but for the purposes of the contest, an extra 16 bucks could be better spent elsewhere IMO (5% of your total budget on something unneeded). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Capt. Obvious Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 ^valid point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victoly Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 it's the only type of point i make. http://i.imgur.com/JoDKW.gif dude what the hell is up with the link posting. NO MORE GIFS?! STOP THE PRESSES. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
+Capt. Obvious Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 it's the only type of point i make. http://i.imgur.com/JoDKW.gif dude what the hell is up with the link posting. NO MORE GIFS?! STOP THE PRESSES. (ノಠ益ಠ)ノ彡┻━┻ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DerrickH Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 No more gifs???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubasteve92 Posted December 5, 2012 Author Share Posted December 5, 2012 i think you can probably make a distinction between what is actually "too much" (ie will fry everything in the tank) and "overkill" (more than is necessary to grow anything you want to grow). LEDs are relatively inexpensive on a per LED basis, but for the purposes of the contest, an extra 16 bucks could be better spent elsewhere IMO (5% of your total budget on something unneeded). I agree. The main issue is to have that amount of leds I will need multiple dimming drivers... which would put me out of budget. I could always add later if needed though. Im trying to put everything in/on the tank I want so that after the contest I dont have to upgrade or add anything to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victoly Posted December 5, 2012 Share Posted December 5, 2012 If you diffuse the light, you might be able to get the color balance you want with a single driver and the appropriate mix of LED colors. SCIENCE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scubasteve92 Posted December 5, 2012 Author Share Posted December 5, 2012 If you diffuse the light, you might be able to get the color balance you want with a single driver and the appropriate mix of LED colors. SCIENCE! Corp Comm major here.. left science because of things like that.. lol 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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esacjack Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 My cousins DIY LED he has red,green,purple/uv incorporated into his setup. Only the whites are dimmable though. Not sure if that was by design or lack of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victoly Posted December 6, 2012 Share Posted December 6, 2012 the cost of fixtures goes up dramatically when you start adding 30-40 dollar drivers per channel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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