FarmerTy

Finished the light rack. Pretty proud of it. The fish are going to go blind when I put them back in the tank!

Nice! What combo of bulbs are you running now?

Nice! You'll be surprised how easily you can rid fish of ich with just twelve days of no-brainer tank swaps. Now clearing the tank is another battle. I'll make sure to sneak a paly on to the next frag you buy from me. [emoji48]

Here's that better picture of the new light rack. I snuck it up there when the wife wasn't looking as she has me on a very monitored activity schedule. [emoji6] I used shelf track from home depot... well, actually from Juiceman and he hooked me up with his old rack he wasn't using anymore since he bought the ATI Powermodules. http://m.homedepot.com/p/Rubbermaid-70-in-Black-Twin-Track-Upright-FG4B8900BLA/100149366 I used the pieces and constructed the light rack. The 3 LED fixtures siting in the middle are the Ocean Revive T247s with all the 10k, green, and red diodes replaced with 3.5k warm white diodes. The T5s are run with ATI ballasts and are 80w, 60" T5 bulbs. The two front ones are ATI Coral+ and ATI Purple+, with a single ATI Blue+ in the back. I call it my ATY Poorman's Powermodule. [emoji23] All I have to say is holy moly, it's bright! [emoji3] I'll try to snap a picture tonight to document the difference and hopefully follow-up with par readings as well.

Thanks Jen. I got a bit of useful knowledge to share... don't mess around with palytoxin! You can take that one to the bank.Bobcat - That's what I felt the worst about was pulling my dog into this. That definitely didn't win me any bonus points with the wife. The minute I started looking better, she was on be about endangering the dog. [emoji53]

I'll get a better shot of it when I mount it in the canopy.

Two 60" T5s on the front of the light rack running an ATI purple + and ATI coral + bulb, one on the back running an ATI blue+.

Nevermind, I figured it out. For future reference, use 1-2 and 5-6 on the ballast to wire 1 bulb on the 2 bulb ballast.

So, I got two of the ATI ballasts to run 3 80w bulbs. They are designed to be able to run 2 80w bulbs a piece. I wired the one ballast for two bulbs and it worked perfectly. Now, I'm not sure how to wire the single bulb to the ballast. Here's the diagram on the ballast. Could anybody with more experience point me in the right direction?

Oh nice! I'll be adding stuff soon then! Who wants palytoxins? Just kidding. [emoji12] FWIW, I beta tested it out and functionality was great and easy to use. I was even able to upload from my phone , which is awesome. Being able to locate exactly what you want without having to dig through classifieds/Facebook/other forums is such a timesaver. For us sellers, the ability to have a section of just your own corals is nice and one day hopefully we can get it setup so that you can even have your own storefront. That way us hobbyist can have our own websites without having to do all the website maintenance work that most of us are clueless on. If we can get the LFSs in our area onboard, imagine how awesome that'll be to know stock at the stores and what they have? The possibilities are endless and I'm looking forward to how it develops.

No, I didn't have them tested. I'm not sure the cost but at about $2000 of hospital bills for me and the dog this weekend, I probably won't be spending the money to submit a sample. [emoji4] I agree with your anecdotal observations though. I almost wish I would have only cut the grandis or the mind-blowing palys so I know which one did me in. I still have issues breathing and I get dizzy here and there. The fun is not over yet but it's bearable. That's why I wanted to post. This stuff is no joke everyone. It almost took me and my dog out!

If it were me, I'd run with the GE one.

I guess they stopped carrying them. I bought my last one like 4 years ago so things might have changed a bit. Sorry to send you down that rabbithole.

Nice! I didn't realize Rory was such a tech nerd! Looks like I missed some great presentations by Tim and Rory. Thanks for recording it Dan and editing... felt like I was almost there.

Here's the article we took them: http://www.advancedaquarist.com/blog/personal-experiences-with-palytoxin-poisoning-almost-killed-myself-wife-and-dogs Here's an interesting study by the CDC on a reported case in Alaska. It looks like the paly that was the culprit in this case looks like the Texas Trash Palys some of us keep. http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm6431a4.htm

They had no clue of course, but I don't blame them. We printed up an article on it and came with it to the hospital. They were very thankful we did. Every nurse I had walked in and said... so... I heard you have an interesting hobby.

Nice! Makes sure you do your own fit test on it to make sure it properly seals.

Just call up Reeflo, their customer service is great and very responsive. I don't think they'll charge you an arm and leg for it either as their direct prices were cheaper than 3rd party parts from other websites.

Here are the guys that sent me to the ER.

Thanks all. It's going to be a somewhat delayed recovery until I'm 100% again but luckily, my lung capacity doesn't affect me much in posting way too much on ARC. You can just remove them and throw them away. The issue with palytoxin is when you cut the palys. I mean, don't go and lick your grandis paly and say that Ty said it was okay but you should be fine to just remove the rock its on and throw it away. If you want to save the rock, I'm sure you can just leave it in the sun and dry it out and maybe give it a good muriatic acid/vinegar soak afterwards. It took about 30 mins to start affecting me and by an hour, I was knee deep in the terrible symptoms. Zorro is doing well. We took him to an emergency clinic. They ran a bunch of tests on him and kept him for overnight observation. They just really let it work itself out of him. We decided to leave him for overnight observation mainly because we didn't want to overwhelm my wife with dealing with my issues and our dog's at the same time. To decontaminate, I used a 20% diluted bleach solution and wiped down the areas that I fragged the corals in. For the painted wall, I used a 50% diluted vinegar solution. I wore nitrile gloves and a half-face respirator with an organic filter cartridge in it. Let me tell you something, working on probably 70% capacity on my lungs right now and using a half-face respirator was quite the task. We also changed all the air filters in the house. I ran the fan option on the AC unit so that it could cycle air, opened up all windows, turned on all ceiling fans, and used all fans I had on hand to blow out of my house to cycle all new air into the house. We let it air out for about 6-8 hrs today and in the last couple hours, closed everything back up and put the house back to normal. Everything is fine now so I think we're good.

Haha, I don't even know why you started with a 40 gallon. I knew you would go bigger. [emoji4]

Hello ARC, As most of you know, I've always been pretty involved with the hobby and this club for a long time now. I just wanted to share my experiences with palytoxin poisoning as I recently was a victim of it. It can get the best of us, new or seasoned to the hobby. The paly in question were two, mind-blowing palys and grandis palys. I recently picked up some small colonies of each from somebody shutting down their tank and planned to frag them and sell them at the swaps as I usually don't have many offerings for softies since I mainly keep acros. Call it diversifying your product if you will. [emoji4] I was cautious as I was aware of the potential for palytoxin when cutting up any zoas or palys. I wore nitrile gloves that extended up to my elbow and also wore eye protection to protect against splatter. Where I went wrong was to pull out my Gryphon coral band saw to frag the colony. When normally fragging them, a scapel and some bone cutters are best utilized as it doesn't kick up anthing. Since I paid good money for the saw, I thought I would put it into action. The saw unfortunately allowed the palytoxin to go airborne in the house and sent both myself and my dog to the ER. Symptoms included chills, fever, nausea, vomiting, severe aches throughout the body, sensitivity to touch, loss of balance, dizzyness, and respiratory issues such as bronchitis and short, rapid breathing. I'm okay now, it occurred yesterday at around 3pm. I spent most of the night at the ER getting tests run on me and feeling pretty miserable. Today, I have some good drugs to help with the pain and respiratory issues but there is no actual treatment for it... just medicine to help with symptoms. It just has to pass in time. So, lesson learned and I hope that my story will benefit others to take caution with zoas and palys when fragging. I hope it also makes people aware that it's not some national story far away from us, but it happened right here in Austin and it is something we should all keep an eye out on. No doubt, there is a palytoxin carrying zoa or paly in a lot of our tanks so be careful everybody and happy reefing. I'll be posting articles when I get a chance with other stories of palytoxin as well as other informative items on the topic. I'll also be posting known corals that carry it so we can all add it to our lists. I'm still torn on keeping the palys in question. It's fine unless I ever decide to frag them. And if I do, I'll be fragging them outside the house and will not be using the saw. There are plenty of poisonous critters we keep in our tanks knowingly, certain urchins, lionfish, foxface, anemones, zoas and palys, boxfish, etc so keeping toxic palys doesn't seem too crazy... And this is coming from a guy who got worked over by palytoxin already. It beat me up AND stole my lunch money! ****************RUNNING LIST OF PALYS/ZOAS THAT MAY HAVE PALYTOXIN******************* I am to add to this list if I see any reported, even if not 100% confirmed just to be cautious: Grandis palys Cinnamon palys Mind-blowing palys Texas trash palys Nuclear Green palys (based on my emperor not eating them as he ate all zoas and palys in my tank except grandis and nuclear green)

Bummer, their shipping is usually pretty reasonable. Or you can have them ship to the store for free I believe and you can pick it up.

I think adding some of the warmer tones definitely helps with color rendition. Those Giesemann 6500k might help out as well a just a standard GE bulb from home depot. I noticed when I swapped my cool white diodes (10k) to the warm white diodes (3.5k), my tank looked a lot more natural and much closer to my MH look. It even gave me a lot of purple back in my tank and helped reds/oranges/yellows a bit.